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 Posted: Sun Jun 7th, 2009 12:50 am
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ok, enough of this deciding who should back Dover city Library. Dover city is Dover City, Not Kent County Library. They are two different Libraries for a reason. People who go to Kent County Library go there because they dont want to go into Dover city.The Dover Library is in a place where its terrible to park. The new Library is not going to solve that problem, no matter what they say. I mean where is everyone supposed to park? Is there a parking lot somewhere that is not being used? Come on Dover City, its hogwash and people are still going to have a tough time parking. OK< then there;s the homeless people who hang out outside the library and inside. People are intimidated by them and don;t want to go there, because of it. I know of a lady who was robbed on her way into dover city library. Kent Count Library has the exact same computer system as Dover city. All the librraries in Kent and sussex and new Castle County have the same operating systems. So its not like there is any advantage by going to Dover City. Even whe dover city gets their new library, when they update their systems, all the libraries get updated. Its not like the new Taj mahal dover city library(which is going to cost us 23 million dollars when all is said and done)is going to have anything over the other libraries except a monster taj malhal building. Kent County library has 60 thousand patrons a year. Is Dover City ready for 60 more thousand people coming up Lockerman street? It only makes sense to keep the libraries separate. All the people that I have talked to have said that even if Kent County Library were to be closed, they would still NOT go into Dover City Library. The dont want the cramped roads, the one way streets, the homeless, the rudeness of Dover City employees, ect...People come into Kent County Library cause of the one on one service, helpful employees who will go out of their way to help anyone, easy access, drive through window, and all the parking they want.Dover City will build a new Library no matter what. They just want Kent Counties money, they dont really care about merging Kent County. Kent County employees, the programs, the book mobile would all be red haired step-children. Also, I know for a fact that the numbers that Dover City reported of patrons ectt. is not true. All eggsagerated. Made up for their own purposes. Dover city Planners are trying to pull the wool over the dover city residents. They could have easily gone into Blue hen mall for their new library for one fourth the cost of this building they want. No parking problems, easy access and much less traffic and congestion. Instead,. they want to put this new library on land they already own. So? Big Deal. They are still going to spend 20 million plus dollars to do it. And put it smack dab in the middle of a congested, over crowded part of town. They do this , in their own worlds tohelp revitalize downtown Dover". WEll, thats not going to happen. Downtown Dover is not going to improve becausethey put a new library there. That problem goes many many blocks,either way. No one is going to want to park 2 blocks away and walk to that Library at night. WE all know its not safe to walk alone in that area at night.



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Copied below is a letter to the editor submitted to the Delaware State News. You can post your opinions by clicking on "Reply."

 

In response to the PUBLIC FORUM guest commentary by Mr. N. C. Vasuki published on Sunday, May 31, 2009 I want to go on record to say that I concur with his well researched and written commentary. The numbers which he uses correspond with others I have read in the same categories. As a resident of Kent County and not a resident of the city of Dover I believe that the Kent County Levy Court indeed has a responsibility for providing state of the art library facilities for all residents of Kent County. Any honorable commissioner should easily understand that it shouldn’t rest on the taxpayers of Dover residents alone to provide the total funds (which the state of Delaware has the option to match up to 50%) for a building which will be accessible to all library users.


It is my understanding that the numbers in regard to the annual operational cost savings would be about $600,000 if the county and city collaborated in a joint library district. That dollar figure was the result of a joint study by the City Manager of Dover and the Kent County Administrator. That savings is a significant amount of money each year — a fact which our Levy Court commissioners apparently choose to ignore.


As a county resident I can’t imagine that the cost per borrower from the Dover City library is $3.40 per transaction and the Kent County library cost per borrower is $8.24. The transaction costs are $4.55 and $5.76 for Harrington and Smyrna which suggests that $8.24 is a significant discrepancy. If any other Kent County residents (and need I remind the residents of the city of Dover they also pay County taxes?) find this situation alarming, I would encourage you to contact your Levy Court Commissioner and state your position.


Dorothy B. Snyder


Dover Public Library Advisory Commission


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Copied below is a guest commentary submitted to the Delaware State News. You can post your opinions by clicking on "Reply."

County council should back library

By N.C. Vasuki

In 1961, the City of Dover (City) constructed a new library on South State Street. It became a very popular spot and has served the City and Kent County very well. There are about 37,600 registered users (card holders) and they browse, borrow and return around 405,000 items (transactions) each year. That includes books, music CDs, DVDs, audio books etc.  From all over Kent County, students, adults, retirees, government and business employees use the library for reference work. Since this library opened, the population of the City and Kent County has almost quadrupled.  So has library usage.
More than half the users live outside the City limits and they have full access to the City library (without a fee) through a financial payment made by the County to the City. The current City library users come from all corners of the County because it has a large collection, a highly professional staff and convenient access. In 2008, it cost $ 37 per borrower and about $ 3.40 per transaction.
In comparison, the Kent County library has about 6,900 borrowers. The cost per borrower is $ 134 and $ 8.24 per transaction – significantly higher than Dover City library. Harrington and Smyrna libraries are more cost efficient also with borrower costs of $ 36.65 and $ 23.60 respectively. Their transaction costs are $ 4.55 and $ 5.76 respectively – much lower than the Kent County library.
The Mayor and the City Council noticing the growth of the City and surrounding areas have embarked on building a new 46,000-sq.ft- “Anchor “library on a parcel of city owned land adjacent to the City hall. The  “Anchor” library will serve as the hub for library services for the entire County. It will be an effective resource to all County residents and will offer support for other libraries in the County. The proposed design will be a highly energy efficient green design and provide convenient parking for 187 vehicles. 
The State of Delaware has recognized the proposed new library as the “Anchor” library for Central Delaware and set aside about $ 5 million as an initial grant. The Mayor and City council have set aside more than $ 3.7 million in addition to providing valuable city owned land. The Dover Library Foundation plans to raise about $ 6 million from private sources and foundations. In addition, the Friends of Dover Library has pledged a gift of $ 200,000 and continues to raise funds for the project.
Kent County Levy Court should, in all fairness, support the new “Anchor” library by providing an amount at least equal to the cash contribution of the  $ 3.7 million made by the City of Dover. The County commissioners have not been forthcoming in their support. The new “Anchor” library is an essential infrastructure improvement for Central Delaware.  An efficient “Anchor” library will be an attractive measure of quality of life, and along with good schools bring in good growth for the region. 
The City’s residential and business property owners provide about $ 2.08 million (27 % of the County’s property tax revenue) to the County government and receive very little in turn. It is particularly grating that one member of the County Council whose district mostly covers a good portion of the City is opposing the new “Anchor” library.  Mr. Brad Eaby, the other commissioner representing the City residents has been a stalwart supporter of the “Anchor” library.
The County Commissioners have correctly expressed their concern about the current state of the local economy and its impact on the budget. They are trying to cut expenses and improve efficiency of services while approving a property tax increase for all property owners to balance the County budget. The tax increase would be especially grating to City property owners if the County Council refuses to support the new “Anchor” library.
The County Administrator and the City Manager were directed to look at several options for optimizing library services. They showed that formation of a Library district supporting the new Anchor library would be the best cost efficient option. The County’s annual cost savings would be about $ 600,000 – enough to support the new Anchor library without further raising taxes or reducing services.
The County Council should seriously look at merging City and Kent County library services through the proposed Library District. Smyrna and Harrington should be invited to join also. There would be no loss of jobs. The Library District would reduce costs, improve efficiency and offer expanded services.
Instead, the County Commissioners are apparently exploring renting about 10,000-sq.ft empty shell space in a shopping center just south of Dover. That means spending more money to convert the shell into a marginal short-term library. The utility costs could also be higher if the shell is heated and cooled by conventional systems. As before, they would be spending money on rental space and move again when the lease runs out. The higher operating and capital expenses would raise the transaction cost even more than the current $ 8.24 – already the highest in the County.
Instead, would it not be great if a united City and County effort made the “Anchor” library a reality – building a real future benefiting all the residents of Kent County? Ask your Councilman to support the “Anchor” library and save money.


Editor’s note: N.C. Vasuki resides in Dover. He is the former chief executive officer of the Delaware Solid Waste Authority.

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Well, given those figures....I'd opt one big honkin' library that could handle BOTH libraries, and would NOT keep both of them open. Maybe I'd consider a satellite library down the road, but I would think West Dover or south of Camden would be a better site.

I am curious though, and am going on a pure hunch...is it primarily older people who use the County library, versus the "youngsters" going to the Dover one?



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Right, Fred.   If one looks at the circ ctats for these libraries, the Dover and Camden libraries combined do almost 70 % of the circulation in the county (Dover having 435, 000, Camden having 113, 000) of total  county circulation (around 800,000 items per year).  These  two are less than 4 miles apart.  The rest of the county breaks down to Milford with around 20% and Smyrna and Harrington with about 5% each.  Bookmobile is around 1% of all circulation, though its popularity will assure it of continued support, even if it's circulation numbers do not. 

It's too bad the county will not work with the city to come up with a solution here. Though the county administrator and the city manager are willing to work together on this, it's too bad the elected officials can't seem to work together on this between the county and the city to create a governing body capable of improving all public libraries in the county.

Either way, the Dover Library will continue to be the biggest public library in Kent and Sussex counties, but without the library district, the ability to upgrade facilities elsewhere in the county will be limited by the narrow vision of the Levy Court and its "whack-a-mole " attitude to requests for building funds and cooperation. 



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What is funny is that the county could have probably merged the functions AND kept a county library and the bookmobile.  They seem to have been scare tactics.

The not committing of funds is a better reason for not moving forward, but the arguments for merging functions for city and county libraries are even stronger then combining school districts.



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One of the proposals for the post office would be to have some drop off locations around town for packages in small storefront or kiosk-type places as well as a depot type main office outside of town, similar to what Fed-ex and UPS have.  The depot would be a base for their vehicles and trucks coming in and out, lessening downtown congestion.  Would be nice to hear from the post office what their thoughts are on this. 



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What do you think?

From the Delaware State News:

Levy Court fails to support library plan


By Bruce Pringle


Delaware State News


DOVER — Kent County Levy Court declined Tuesday to move forward on a proposal to join with the city of Dover in providing library services.


In an informal vote following a lengthy discussion with representatives of the city, only three of the seven Levy Court commissioners favored continuing discussion with Dover on starting a regional library system that would feature a state-of-the-art library next to City Hall.


The three included commissioners Eric L. Buckson, Bradley S. Eaby and Richard E. Ennis. They were outvoted by Commission President P. Brooks Banta and commissioners Allan F. Angel, Harold K. Brode and George "Jody" Sweeney.


"We don’t have the money at this time to give anybody," Commissioner Brode said, referring to $3.7 million the city hoped the county would contribute toward building a new library that would be run by a board representing both the county and the city.


Commissioner Ennis agreed the county’s financial situation is problematic, but said library service may suffer in the long run if the county does not participate in creating a new library. "I feel if we don’t go forward with it now, we’re going to miss a great opportunity," he said.


Tuesday’s decision could mean Dover will be on its own in building and operating a $23.5 million facility that will replace the existing Dover Public Library.


According to Dover officials, the city’s current library draws more than 1,000 visitors a day, about half of whom live outside the city.


A number of scenarios for county-city cooperation on library management were laid out in recent months by County Administrator Michael J. Petit de Mange and Dover City Manager Anthony J. DePrima. The most prominent called for closing the county library near Camden and forming an independent library commission that would run the new library.


Such a merger would result in annual savings for both the county and city, according to the two administrators’ calculations. The county could have used its savings to finance bonds to help pay for the new library’s construction.


But Commissioner Sweeney said library services in the county are "woefully inadequate" and this is no time to close the county library — despite the promise of more seating, more computers and many other advantages at the library Dover aims to build on city land on Loockerman Street between City Hall and the Dover post office.


Commissioner Brode said, "I get calls all the time: ‘Don’t close the library and don’t take the bookmobile away from us.’"


The fate of the county bookmobile under a regional operation is unknown.


Without county participation in the project, Dover could be forced to raise an additional $3.7 million, the amount it sought from the county for construction. The city also could find itself without county help in paying annual operating costs, estimated as $1.7 million — about $300,000 more than for Dover’s existing library.


Levy Court’s decision wasn’t entirely unexpected.


City Councilman Reuben Salters said during a meeting Monday that he had been in conversation with commissioners about the library. "They’re already reluctant. I can tell you that," he said.


Councilman Salters asked Mr. DePrima at the Monday meeting about the effect of Levy Court’s declining to participate. Mr. DePrima responded that a planned fund-raising drive would have to be "greater and longer, probably much longer."


Mr. DePrima said Tuesday that issuing bonds to finance construction also was a possibility.


The state has committed money to the project, and contributions from individuals, corporations and nonprofits also are to be sought. The city is to spend $3.7 million, as it hoped the county also would do.


Construction is to begin next year. The impact of the commissioner’s decision on the project schedule remains to be seen.


Besides voting against uniting with Dover in library services, the commissioners rejected two related proposals — to earmark $1 million for a new library and to work toward raising an additional $2.7 million for the project. Commissioners Eaby and Ennis were alone in voting for both those ideas; Commissioner Angel joined them in supporting the $1 million set-aside.


Commissioner Buckson, while favoring a regional concept, said he could not support the commitment of any money under current economic conditions.


None of Tuesday’s votes amounted to official decisions. The commissioners were not in a regular Levy Court meeting, but in a Community Services Committee session. The membership of Levy Court and the committee are identical.


Staff writer Bruce Pringle can be reached at 741-8233 or bpringle@newszap.com.



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A community the size od dover -- both from a population and geography perspective needs about 3 or 4 postal service sites sites.   



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I would think they would look either to the Blue Hen Corporate center because it would be cheap, or in the industrial park in West Dover....but I do think a small walk up center in the city would be nice.



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Fred -- I agree that it isn't the best location any longer and that in 50 years ....    In the meantime, however, it would be nice to have some sort of postal service facilities around the community.   They don't have to conduct their business as though they are the only game in town, even if they enjoy that status.   Actually. maybe that's a better idea -- permit competitors to get into the mail delivery business.



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The Post Office has wanted to know the plans for a couple of years, as well.  I tend to think the growth of the past 50 years meanst that it isn't the best location for a post office...and, who knows....maybe in 50 years the question will be, "What is a Post Office?"



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The library is going between the post office and the city hall.  The post office's 50-year lease runs out in a few years and I don't see Dover telling them to get out.  too many people visit the post office down town.



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Since I am always the last to know -- and this situation is no different -- I just have to inquire.   If the city is going to build a new library on its property now occupied by the post office, is it an imperative that the post office be relocated, or is it going to remain?   I have read nothing about a planned new post office, even though the city needs about 4 locations to provide decent service to the citizens.



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From the Delaware State News:

Dover eyes savings on new library


Carey hopeful construction costs will be reasonable


By Bruce Pringle


Delaware State News


DOVER — Mayor Carleton E. Carey Sr. says the city could be in a position to save money on the construction of a new library while putting money into the pockets of the workers who would build it.


Dover, with financial aid from the state and possibly Kent County, plans to create the facility on East Loockerman Street between City Hall and the Dover post office. The tentative construction cost is $18.7 million.


"This is an ideal time to get the construction cost down," Mayor Carey said, referring to economic conditions that have produced a slump in the building industry and swollen the ranks of unemployed construction workers.


Even after adjusting for expected seasonal layoffs, joblessness in construction in Delaware has increased for five consecutive months, according to the state labor department. Nearly 4,000 fewer people were counted as employed in the field in March, the most recent month for which statistics are available, than during March 2008.


The official number of employed construction workers fell from 26,400 in March 2008 to 22,600 a year later.


"We need to get people to work," Mayor Carey said. And if the project goes as he envisions, "we save money, too."


His hopes ride partly on a fund-raising effort approved Monday by City Council. A private firm is to be paid $320,000 to generate $6 million from individuals, businesses and nonprofits. That campaign aims to ensure the city can meet a schedule that calls for soliciting construction bids early next year and finishing work by early 2012.


"Hopefully, it will move along OK," Mayor Carey said. "It depends on the financing."


The financial demands of the project are to be laid out during a City Council meeting Monday afternoon at City Hall. A discussion of the latest design of the 46,000-square-foot proposed library also is scheduled, as is a description of scenarios under which Dover and Kent County could economize by combining library services.


The meeting, set for 5:30 p.m., is open to the public.


The total project cost is projected as $23.5 million, with $1.9 million in architectural and engineering fees and $1.8 million for furniture and equipment being the most expensive items other than construction.


The result would be a library far bigger, more modern and better equipped than the existing Dover Public Library on South State Street.


The seating capacity for readers would grow from 94 to 176; meeting-room capacity, from 40 to 220; computers, from 28 to 78; and the collection of books and other items, from 132,000 to 160,000.


Perhaps most significantly for many library users, today’s 35 parking spaces would be replaced by a parking area to accommodate 187 motor vehicles.


The proposed library location next to City Hall "offers tremendous potential to establish a bustling civic environment where outdoor spaces cluster together to form an active urban experience," according to the text of the report to be presented Monday. New landscaping, paving, lighting and benches would support the "creation of an outdoor gathering place to promote a sense of community."


Entrance to the library would be through a "central lobby, enlivened by a café kiosk, casual furnishings, and a retail component. This area will serve as the primary orientation point for an open and accessible entrance into the traditional library services to the west and the 150-person multi-purpose room to the east," the report, prepared by project designer Holzman Moss Architecture of New York City, states.


The ground floor’s features would include:


•a "community den" with a working fireplace;


•an area in which small groups could watch movies;


•an 8,000-square-foot youth-services section.


On the second floor — accessible by elevator or a grand stairway — large windows would provide views of downtown Dover while skylights would illuminate seating areas within the stacks.


A loft would be devoted to teenagers. The report explains, "A full-height glass wall separates the loft from the traditional library areas on the second floor, combining the privacy of a distinct teen space with full visual accessibility, making for a lively space for the varieties of uses — from gaming to sleepovers — that the contemporary teen library user desires."


Staff writer Bruce Pringle can be reached at 741-8233 or bpringle@newszap.com.


If you go


Dover City Council is briefed on a proposed new library


5:30 p.m. Monday


City Hall, 15 E. Loockerman St.


Details: cityofdover.com under "Meeting Agendas"

 



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From the Delaware State News:

Dover heads to next phase of library project


DOVER — City Council on Monday night approved the spending of well over $800,000 on further preparations for replacing Dover Public Library.


The council cleared the way for up to $549,000 in detailed design of the proposed replacement facility, which is to be built next to City Hall, and $320,000 to employ a fund-raising organization to generate $6 million to help fund the project. The state is to reimburse the city for 50 percent of that spending.


The vote on each expense was 8-0, with Councilman Timothy A. Slavin absent. Council President Kenneth L. Hogan said Councilman Slavin was stranded by snow in Colorado.



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From the Delaware State News:

Panel backs two library expenditures


By Bruce Pringle


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DOVER — A proposal to build a state-of-the-art library got another boost Monday.


Dover’s Parks, Recreation, and Community Enhancement Committee endorsed two key spending proposals, for $549,000 for continued design work on a proposed library building and $320,000 to employ a fundraising organization to seek $4 million to $6 million in private donations to help pay for constructing and equipping such a facility, a proposal dating to at least 2007.


But the committee did not tackle perhaps the thorniest issue of the project: Whether the city and Kent County should merge their library operations — and, if so, what kind of system would result.


"There are still so many unanswered questions," including how Kent County Levy Court feels about merging, said City Councilman Eugene B. Ruane, who is a member of the committee.


City council has not taken a position on the matter, either.


City Manager Anthony J. DePrima and Kent County Administrator Michael J. Petit de Mange last month presented a number of possibilities, including establishment of a regional library system governed by an independent board. In one scenario, projected to save money for both the city and the county, a new library next to City Hall would serve much of central Delaware while the county library in Camden would close. That idea, though, has drawn heavy opposition from Camden-area residents.


The committee’s funding recommendation now goes to City Council, which is scheduled to discuss the library project on April 27 and May 4.


The official construction-cost estimate for a new library is $18.5 million. But an updated estimate is due by the time of the May 4 meeting, City recreation director Zachary C. Carter, told the committee. Mr. DePrima has said the next estimate likely will be higher.


The city would supply $3.7 million toward construction in addition to providing the ground on which the library would be built. Proceeds from the sale of the existing Dover Public Library also could be used in the project.


In addition to contributions from the state and possibly $3.7 million from Kent County, funds would come from a two- to three-year fundraising effort among private groups and individuals, Mr. Carter said.


Hiring a fundraising organization would be the responsibility of Dover Library Foundation Inc., to which the requested $320,000 would be transferred.


The $549,000 in design work would be performed by Holzman Moss Architecture of New York City, which is nearing completion of preliminary plans for a two-story structure that is to be far more spacious and environmentally friendly than Dover’s current library. Large windows, a loft area for teenagers, an ample supply of computers and an outdoor "reading garden" would be featured.


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I'd ask those who say that Delaware is too small to have as many school districts as we do why it doesn't make sense to combine the City and County library systems?

And while my knee-jerk reaction WAS against giving Mikey any money...I get that he wanted the guarantee rental from the city, I thought it at least should be considered, being the open minded guy that I am. 

I see the need for both an anchor library AND a larger Dover Public Library. I considered the "satellite" library concept, but don't believe it will be cost effective, given what is needed and what is expected of a library today.  I'm not saying we need to rev up the shovels tomorrow, but we need to have the plan in place about what we are going to be doing over the next 5 or 10 years, and not focus on what has happened over the past 6 months or so.



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Response to Commissioner Sweeney:
1. Anchor Library Funding: Mr. Sweeney did not mention that as the #1 library construction priority, the state has already funded over $6 million to the Anchor Library under the Minner Administration.  The state supports the Anchor Library just the way it has supported new libraries in New Castle and Sussex Counties.  Is Kent County to remain behind with no new libraries?

2. County Funding: The Dover Public Library annual reports show where the Reciprocal Borrowing money has been spent.  You will also find that the city of Dover has spent over $5 million dollars in just six years.  Libraries are expensive which is why they need the combined resources of both the County and the City.

3. “Dover funds theirs the County funds theirs”
The “County” includes Dover, Harrington, Milford and Smyrna.  Should these residents who already pay higher library taxes to support their home libraries be asked to support a County library with their general funds?  Currently they are being asked to do just that in supporting the Kent County Library.  Kent County has the dubious distinction of having two public libraries with the lowest county funding support in the state: Harrington and Smyrna.  In FY07, the county generously gave Smyrna $12,000.

4. “Dover funds theirs the County funds theirs”
This goes to the heart of why Mr. Petit de Mange and Mr. De Prima are proposing combining the two systems to eliminate wasteful duplication and reduce spending.  In addition to showing how the Anchor Library can be fairly supported, they show a way for the County to support construction of the Anchor Library.  United we have a well supported library system to serve all of Kent County which includes much needed higher funding to Harrington and Smyrna.  Divided our library services fall.

Mr. Sweeney, along with your fellow commissioners, make history by supporting the Anchor Library.  The present generation and future generations to come will thank you.

 



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To respond to some of the posts here:
1. Anchor Library: During times of economic crisis, defunding capital projects is usually one of the first moves a government takes to get quick cash.  The budget submitted by ex-Governor Minner only offered funding to two libraries in Sussex County and NOT the Dover Library.  The County is in better shape than the State, but I am not in favor of supporting the Dover Anchor Library.

2. Using a renovated building: Renovating an existing building to make it more efficient and taking advantage of new technology is not impossible and certainly cheaper than a brand new building.   

3. Building downtown: DART will add bus routes to suit the needs of the public.  If a Library is built in Leipsic, DART will add a route there.  There are 23 traffic lights within a 1 mile radius of the location. 

4. Parking:   The town may be able to ask the Post Office to park their trucks somewhere else (Where?) or to ask the State Fleet Services to park somewhere else (Again, Where?), but they will not stop residents, state employees, and postal visitors from using the parking lot.  If the Post Office 50 year lease runs out next year, Where? will it go?  The US Post Master General has asked to drop one day from delivery, so they will not have money to move to a new building.

5. The posts about "Dover taking over". The County has provided neary $5 MILLION dollars to the Dover Library in Reciprocal Borrowing Funds over the last 10 years.  I would LOVE to see an accounting of how that money was spent.  The Reciprocal Borrowing Fund provides money to Dover, Smyrna, and Harrington Libraries at the rate of $2.65 per book borrowed by County residents.  If almost 100% of visitors to Kent County's Library are County, and more than 50% of visitors to Dover's Library are County residents, why put the library downtown.   

6. The Kent Library is in a poor location because it is so close to Dover. I would rather see a single large consolidated library outside of town (Schutte, Brecknock, Blue Hen) than in downtown Dover, but I know that Dover wants the Library to cap their downtown renovation project.  If that cannot be done, then two libraries, Dover funds theirs, the County funds theirs. 

After almost 50 years isn't it time we have a new library in Kent County?  My answer to that question is no.  I fully support the requirement for library services as a government function.  Privately run libraries are called Waldenbooks, B. Dalton Bookseller, Barnes and Noble.  BUT, I do not support building a new library this year and probably not next year, either.  I cannot justify affecting employees and residents and putting funding into a new building.



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To respond to some of the posts here:
1. Anchor Library: State and Dover city money were approved for the library construction before the present crisis which is why money is available to hire an architectural firm and plans have proceeded. Additional money will be needed, particularly from the county, for a truly regional library. Building the Anchor Library will create much needed jobs.

2. Using a renovated building: A large library needs its own space to function as a library and not within the limitations of a building renovation.  A new building means that it can be energy efficient and also take advantage of new technology. 

3. Building downtown means that it is close to public transportation and is eligible for Federal Economic Stimulus funding.  It is on a road about two blocks from a major highway, with no traffic lights, and is accessible from both the northern and southern parts of the county.

4. Parking: Contrary to posts here the location depended on adequate parking. The post office is on leased land owned by the city and is slated to move but will keep a customer service location downtown.

5. The posts about "Dover taking over". Here's a secret: Dover has very generously provided county residents with its library facilities and resources, and yes, that includes the Kent Library which has to rely on interlibrary loan because it is small.  Without the Dover initiative, an Anchor Library would not be possible and since 50% of the library use is from the county it is only fair that the county pay.  Two small libraries that don't meet the needs of the county are more expensive to run than one large one that will.

6. The Kent Library is in a poor location because it is so close to Dover.  In addition to Dover, Harrington and Smyrna libraries need more county resources because from these areas it really is a drive to Dover.

After almost 50 years isn't it time we have a new library in Kent County?



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Fred wrote:  I and my family use the library a lot, and it wouldn't matter if it was downtown, west, or east at the mall.  I even thought Zimmerman's self-serving proposal to put it on Loockerman should be looked at, as much as I hate giving him any more of the city's dollars. 

Certainly you jest -- a heavily visited public library on Loockerman St?    Mr. Zimmerman's ideas are all biased toward what is good for Mr. Zimmerman.   I do not criticize him for that, because it is his money; but I don't believe the taxpayers should be feeding into his hunger to develop, build, and profit.



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Actually, there is a 3rd group.  Those that support expansion, but think this is a REALLY bad time to do it and that where they choose to put it is a very bad place.

What is going to end up happening the way it's planned now, is that it will end up being a Dover Public Library, with County library books and some services.  The minute the price of gas goes up or they need something, they will go to the County for funds, and if they don't get it, threaten to stop the bookmobile - or maybe even not do that - they might just stop the bookmobile anyway.  Then you end up with no services to the rest of the county.  Granted that SOME (not all) towns have their own library and are receiving funds, but why should Felton residents have to go all the way in to downtown Dover?

Downtown Dover ALREADY has a problem with parking, just where are the people who go to the post office or library going to park?   I think this is a really bad idea and with state funds being cut, they aren't going to get much money from the state.  It's going to end up with services (electric, water, sewer) prices going up, city taxes going up, county taxes going up, and most people's salaries going down, staying the same or being non-existant.  It's even worse if you don't intend to use the facilities.  I believe the place where the county building is located is also within the city limits.  If they HAVE to have a new library RIGHT NOW, then how about over in that area?  Maybe where the old Penny's warehouse was (between the Blue Hen Mall, and where the county building is now).  There's bus transportation, PLENTY of parking, and plenty of space for expansion.  Maybe the people who own the land will consider a donation of land (that should give them a HUGE break on corporate taxes), or a part of the Blue Hen Mall that already exists.

I still think that this is not the time to build anything.  Where are they going to get the money?  They are going to raise your taxes, and/or your utilities.  Think of that when you go to the unemployment office, or read your statement to see your 8% pay cut, or wonder IF you are going to keep your job.  My daddy always told me, if money's tight, buy only what you need to keep going, and wait on the rest.



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One does have to address that the current library doesn't meet current standards, so it will have to be replaced at some point, anyway.  The library has to be bigger to handle the existing "satellite" libraries in the rest of Kent County, or one has to turn one of them into the main feeder library.

So...needing a main county library, needing one that meets the various health and safety standards of today, and that the existing library doesn't meet existing needs (and even if growth slows for a bit, is there anyone who doesn't think that once the economy pulls out that growth won't explode here), I am on the side of a new library.   For many of the reasons given, I'm not sold on the post office location.



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Putting a library in the post office lot doesn't make much sense anyway.  Everytime the City has some kind of event downtown, the streets in that area are almost always blocked off, which means that you couldn't get to the library if you wanted to.

And I don't know what kind of boon the City expects from potential patrons to the other businesses in the area, as most of them are closed on weekends when the majority of people visit the library. 

If the city wants to expand, let them add a satellite library to the Pitts Center which already draws people.  It would cost a lot less and still provide service.   Or build another floor on the current one.  I know the City of Dover has a fear of heights, but if you can't expand out, then the only way to go is up.

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There are two groups...those who think any expansion of anything is in and of itself bad, and those who want to seek other or better ways to do it.

I think there are acceptable alternatives, but we do have to move forward.  I and my family use the library a lot, and it wouldn't matter if it was downtown, west, or east at the mall.  I even thought Zimmerman's self-serving proposal to put it on Loockerman should be looked at, as much as I hate giving him any more of the city's dollars.

 



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That would be a great idea.  However, it still goes back to money and control.  The State of Delaware is trying to cut the pay of all of the state workers - to the point where some of them may end up administering their own welfare and food stamps, and Dover wants to combine libraries and build a new one???? 

I think the people in the city that came up with this one are in La-La land.  Get a reality check their boys and girls.  If Dover has the money to consider putting up a new library NOW, then maybe Markell should cut the amount of money the state gives Dover so they don't have take food out of the mouths of children of the single parent state workers who barely make enough to survive now.

Books are important - but how many people will go to that beautiful new library when they can't afford to live around here?  If they can't feed their families, they aren't going to be able to afford to drive to the library, or even have bus fare

Take care of the people first.  THEN once the economy has recovered, talk about a library.  The Federal government has already said that this economy is going to take years to recover.  It's only going to be a matter of time before the City is going to lay off workers or follow Markell's lead and cut their pay.  Do you think the workers will care about their shiny new library then?  All they will see is a monstrosity that took their wages.



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Kirk, I agree 100%.   This is about control.

Fred - I can tell you that running a larger library ISN'T going to cost less to build, run or maintain.  It might cost Dover less because they intend to take more Kent County dollars.  Right now, the county gives them X amount of dollars and the Kent County library has it's own operating budget, which is substantially larger - because it is all that library has.  Dover's library also has funds from the City budget.   By them taking over the County library, they hope to get all the funds the County library gets now, and the x amount the county gives to all libraries, and they hope that the X amount will be larger because then they will be larger - with less of their own money to contribute.

So they put the new library in the parking lot next to the Post Office downtown - then Felton and Camden residents have to come all the way to Dover to check out a book?   Where the county library is now isn't that far away, but Dover's even further.  Why would they come here? 

Dover is always trying to force other parts of the government to do things - with the connector from West Dover to 13, while DelDot hadn't decided what they were going to do, the City went ahead and approved Eden Hill to allow the medical center to be built, forcing the state to either cancel the plans or go where the City wanted it to go.   They are trying to do the same thing with the County library.  If Delaware Division of Libraries still loaned books, they'd try to take it too.

The City of Dover is big for raising rates on services that go outside the city, like electric, water, and sewer instead of raising city taxes for services that people outside the city can't use.  All without them being able to vote for city council.  What makes you think that eventually they won't get the money out of raising water, electric and sewer again, and then later starting to charge the people for use of the Library?

Every time anyone else does something, the City of Dover has to try to take it over, and it becomes just another part of the City.  Look at the Dart - how much of Dart goes to Milford or Felton or even Camden?  Dart is supposed to be for the whole state, but Milford, Felton and other little burgs get nothing.  The same is going to happen with the library. 

It won't be a County library - it will be a DOVER library.  The county will get pushed out.  If the money gets tight, what will get cut?  Any services outside the city limits.



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Fred: if this was about cost they would use the very empty and available Blue Hen Mall.  It already has bus service, electrical, water and sewer capacity, is near a residential area that is expanding, an elementary school, several day care centers, has plenty of parking, and has ease of access for the +50% of patrons that are not from Dover.  It is also eligible for Federal Economic Stimulus funding as it is a renovation of an existing facility, and would cost many millions of dollars less to complete.  This has nothing to do with saving the tax payers money or making logistical sense.  It has everything to do with building an edifice in downtown Dover that some people believe will attract thousands of visitors who cannot afford books, newspapers or home computers but will spend millions in local stores to create an economic hub for the city.  All this at a cost of more than $1000 per family while we are cutting salaries and staff because these governments are broke.



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Kent County Complex has plenty of land - why not build a Dover/Kent County Library there?  It's within the city limits but not in town.  There would be plenty of parking.  But I guess the biggest question would be - would the employees be County or City of Dover employees?



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Well, any plan to build any library isn't going to start tomorrow. It will take a while to get it beyond proposal to a drawing board and then off of it. Plus, did you see where the costs of running one larger library would use less tax dollars?

Just because we are in the worst economy most of us have ever seen doesn't mean that we can't plan for the future. I think it will get better; at worst, another year or so.  Both libraries are too small, and Kent county needs an "anchor" library ,and it makes sense to consolidate the two.



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Why are they even considering doing anything when the economy is so bad that half of the employees they need to man it wouldn't even be hired?  Wait until the economy gets a little better.  If you have money to burn, give it to Markell - maybe it might help pay some wages.



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tspong wrote: "This is a work in progress," Mr. Petit de Mange said. "No decisions have been made."
Right.   Anybody who actually believes the city of Dover will not have a library of its own, irrespective of what the County does, hasn't been paying atrtention.  Never mind that half the present State St. users come from out of town, the city will insist on having a library -- and will probably find a way to coerce the county and state into funding its construction.  Watch and learn.

 



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What do you think?

From the Delaware State News:  Library Merger Mulled

Proposal gets mixed reaction from crowd


By Bruce Pringle


Delaware State News


DOVER — A proposal to merge the libraries of Dover and Kent County drew mixed reviews from a standing-room-only crowd Monday evening.


While some of the approximately 75 residents in the audience at the Kent County Levy Court Administrative Complex praised the concept of merging the two library departments and creating a single, state-of-the-art facility next to City Hall, others bemoaned the possibility of the county’s library in Camden being closed. The existing Dover library, on South State Street, also would close.


The consolidation would save money for both the city and the county, according to a report compiled jointly by the two governments.


Combining forces to produce a much better library than now available in Kent County makes sense under current economic conditions, argued Dr. Basilio N. Bautista, who lives near Wyoming.


But Camden resident Hannah McLennan said proponents of consolidation put "too much focus on money and not enough on service."


Merging two libraries into one, she said, is the opposite of what is appropriate.


"We need more than two libraries," Ms. McLennan said. "We probably need four libraries."


Critics of the merger also questioned the proposed location. But City Manager Anthony J. DePrima said hundreds of out-of-town residents already access the existing Dover library every day.


"We have 1,000 people a day in our little library," he said. "Five hundred of them don’t live in Dover."


But if half the users of the Dover library and most users of the Camden library live outside the city, Ms. McLennan asked, why propose "putting the library where the people aren’t?"


Officials noted that the proposed site need not be purchased. The city owns it and has long considered building a library there, even if the county doesn’t participate in the project.


Mr. DePrima also assured the audience that parking spaces would be plentiful and would be monitored to prevent their use by workers in nearby office buildings.


"I can assure you we are addressing the parking by putting in more parking spaces than required under our zoning code and under national library standards," he said.


The latest official cost estimate for the library is around $18 million, according to Mr. DePrima, who said a new, probably higher estimate is due soon. The city already has set aside $3.7 million, which the county would match. The city also expects financial help from the state and from private contributors. In addition, proceeds from a sale of the current Dover library could be applied to the construction cost.


Operating two libraries, Mr. DePrima said, costs $2.1 million a year while running just one would cost about $1.7 million.


A commission, consisting of both city and county appointees, would set "one budget, one agenda, one set of priorities," said County Administrator Michael J. Petit de Mange.


He, Mr. DePrima and Kent Levy Court commissioners George "Jody" Sweeney and Eric C. Buckson emphasized that many possibilities for the libraries exist. A number of options were discussed, including continuing separate operations of the two libraries.


"This is a work in progress," Mr. Petit de Mange said. "No decisions have been made."


"We’re nowhere near putting a stamp on anything," Mr. Buckson said.


Staff writer Bruce Pringle can be reached at 741-8233 or bpringle@newszap.com.



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