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the_great_one wrote: Long live the Lawn Darts!!! Ha ha ha ha ha ;)
Can you let me on on that one "great one"?



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Long live the Lawn Darts!!! Ha ha ha ha ha ;)



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CitizenUSA wrote: Long live the SIGN!!!:):):)

Here, here!!



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It may be a personal right to call people names if one is so immature to have to resort to that. But when you sign into an agreement that prohibits name calling and personal attacks on other members, you lose that right. Don't you just love how some people seem to think their rights over rule everyone elses??

 I'm sure we know what your sign would read.:P

Long live the SIGN!!!:):):)



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coophealy wrote: Number1, I think that the_great_one just has "personal" feelings against my husband.  His posts are pretty much just an attack on my husband.  It's okay, Kurt can take it.  Don't waste your time responding to him, but thanks for your support.  The sign is going to stay up no matter what he says.  He's outnumbered.  He's not going to change Kurt's mind about that.


Coophealy,

I have no personal feelings towards anyone nor am I trying to change anyone's mind, I am simply using my freedom of speech and stating my opinion.......much like your family using your freedom of speech to post the sign that you have in your yard.  I simply find it hilarious that your husband puts up a sign warning of a speed trap ahead when he was pulled over for expired registration.  I could see his point if he were to pulled over for speeding or he posted a sign stating "expired registration trap ahead" but that would be a really big sign ha ha ha.  Do I think your husband is an idiot?  Absolutely, without a doubt.  I say that because it is my right to do so.  Just like when you and others have sat up late at your computer screens at night thinking of things to b***h and complain about that concerns the Felton Police Dept. and the job they do, it is because you have the right to do so.  If you don't like what they do, may I suggest that you move into city limits if your home is not already located in the limits of Felton and run for a council position and change it. 

You are either on the bus or you or under it......Either way its pulling out of the station. ;)



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Number1, I think that the_great_one just has "personal" feelings against my husband.  His posts are pretty much just an attack on my husband.  It's okay, Kurt can take it.  Don't waste your time responding to him, but thanks for your support.  The sign is going to stay up no matter what he says.  He's outnumbered.  He's not going to change Kurt's mind about that.



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the_great_one, I know that you are hiding behind your screen name, so you may or may not know me and my husband.  I just want you to know that I don't appreciate your actions (that of a child) and calling my husband an idiot.  You should be adult and mature enough to state your opinion without calling someone names.  Do you really know us?

Lisa (see I sign my name)



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"Great One" methinks you doth protest too much!  The sign has taken on a life of its own.  It is a win-win for us ordinary working joes who travel up and down that road  (for the record, I do not.  My brother does) and the town of Felton.  Ordinary joes are reminded to slow down and the FPD doesn't have to expose their officers to the dangerous job of running radar in precarious often dangerous places on the road...



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He should have just gotten his tags renewed on his vehicle like most people do within the time frame of when the advisory letter is sent and when they expired and he wouldn't have had to worry about the ticket.  I hope people that travel up and down the roadway pay more attention to their surroundings than he does to his tags ha ha ha ha ha.  What an idiot....:P

 



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Regardless of the motivation "Great One" the sign slows people down.  It also frees up the Felton PD to do some work in town.  It's a good thing!!



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I can see putting this sign up if he were pulled over for speeding; HOWEVER, it was for expired registration for THREE MONTHS.  Let us all condone him not taking his vehicle through the inspection lane to make sure it is safe for the roadway so that we may raise a stink about the police officers enforcing the law.  All I can say is WOW...



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Just my two cents...

I frequently hold up a sign on the side of the road, warning of speed traps ahead. It's my right to do so -- and yours too! You just have to be careful about the laws in your state regarding such signs, etc.

Signs such as this cause drivers to slow down, and to be more aware of their surroundings as they drive. Why would anyone have an issue with signs like this?

Check this out:
http://speedtrapahead.org/wordpress/about-us/



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Well it looks to me like the town could save thousands by eliminating all but 2 officers and have them run 12 hour shifts . It is a SMALL town after all. But what the people here have complained about is the fact that police are ticketing others for the same things they are guilty of doing. Speeding, illegal stops on the highway, no headlights, blocking crossovers. You will not get the respect of the people as long as you have police breaking the law to enforce it on others!!! 



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man, i knew i loved you for some reason, lol,,,,,,,,,  thank you b for standing up for me......  im still trying to delete my account, but when i go to the webmaster, it doesn't do a darn thing..........  but  i changed my email address, so i won't be horrassed, and i want to thank you again bob,.////////////  i take back all the snit i said about you, lol...............  i have your back, as you first took mine..........  um maybe?????????????????????



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thanks fllbb!!!!  i stayed away from this sight since then, but i see, that you are standing up for me...........  thank you.  i guess that is what 16 years of friendship is about.........  you know me, and i know you, and we only want what is right.......  lol.........  i didn't see your personal post, but the other who posted it on here....  and i wanted again to thank you bob.....................



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Copied below is a letter to the editor submitted to the Delaware State News. You can post your comments by clicking "Reply."

 

All this talk about the speed-trap sign in Felton warranted a Sunday drive with my wife. Amusing, I mean this guy has a great sense of humor and imagination.

Having read everything printed in the State News, I think the town of Felton & the D.O.T. have forgotten what the objective of their so called speed traps are, to stop and or slow down speeders. If this man’s sign does just that, so be it! Mission accomplished. If either government agency still complains, then, they are doing it just for the money.

Joseph M. Slavish

Clayton

 



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I am sure that if a family member of yours for some unfortunate reason were to be struck on the highway, I can guarantee that all of you would be wondering where in the world the Felton Police were to set up their "speed trap" and catch violators or why they weren't around deterring crime.  For those that say they should do away with the town police, you should be very careful what you wish for.  You feel that your family and friends are just as important as the next person and rightfully so; however, doing away with the town police would only increase response times of the other police throughout the county.  State Police are busy enough as it is without having to cover municipalities.  When you are sitting in your house waiting for an hour and a half  to two hours for a state trooper because someone broke into your car and they are busy with domestics and assaults and things of more concern, you will be complaining that Felton needs its own town police.  It is a double edged sword for most people.  It just seems that most love to complain whether it makes any sense at all.  That begins with the resident with the sign in his yard.  It stated in the paper that he was pulled over for expired registration.  According to reports in the paper, his registration had been expired for THREE months.  To begin with, how can you ride around with tags on your vehicles being expired for THREE months and not notice and/or care????  Also, the Division of Motor Vehicle sends a notice to a vehicle owner's residence advising them that their tags will expire in SIX months and that it would be necessary to take their vehicle through the inspection lane in order to get the tags renewed.  So......from the time he would receive the letter stating his tags would expire and when he was pulled over would be a period of NINE months and this guy is complaining about the fine he had to pay and that he was pulled over.  You weren't pulled over for speeding as it appears, so why would you complain about a speed trap?  A trap is a mechanism used to catch a dumb animal or a nuisance pest.  If the shoe fits my friend............I guess you fit that category.  I applaud the Felton Police and other agencies enforcing the laws for the state of Delaware, not only to keep city streets and state roads safe but to also bring in revenue to the towns and state.  I think they should raise the fines even higher, maybe that would decrease the repeat offenders that are out on the streets and roads now.  I'm sure when his sign was vandalized he was wondering where the police were to find the person who did it. 

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rescue48 wrote: ...  The fines are determined by the state of Delaware, not the town of Felton; and as such, the state of Delaware takes a majority of those fines. 

...  There is no secret government entity pulling the strings.


Rescue, I have no doubt that your intentions are good, but your information is suspect.    The town of Felton receives 100% of the fines generated by its police.    The town does not receive the "fees" attached to the fine, but the town does receive the entire fine amount.

I agree that there is no secret entity pulling the strings of the town police activities -- it is either the mayor & council or the chief, or all the above.    Residents enjoy the benefits of a police agency because they are largely able to support themselves by picking the pockets of motorists passing by -- not through -- the town.



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I don't believe that most of their "stops" are for motorists going 90 mph. 
I think you might be surprised at the number of tickets written for high speeds. 
I think a lot of people are "curious" about the amount of tickets, the average fine per ticket, and the average speed per ticket.
Then go and ask.  It's not a state secret.  The fines are determined by the state of Delaware, not the town of Felton; and as such, the state of Delaware takes a majority of those fines.
Also, please refer to the wikipedia definition of speed trap:

"Cities or road sections become known as speed traps where police have a reputation for writing an unusually high number of traffic tickets, especially speeding tickets. Sometimes the posted speed limits are not easily seen; in other places, the limits are set such that many vehicles are caught. In many of these uses, the term speed trap connotes speed limit enforcement for purposes of ticket revenue or traffic deterrence instead of safety."

So, see it is a speed trap.  I have posted this definition before.  It definitely applies.

The limit signs are posted and easy to see.  The speed drops from 55 to 45; also easy to comply with.  I suppose it is all in the eye of the beholder.  I personally don't see it as a speed trap.  If it is, then so what?  Don't speed, don't get a ticket.  Speed, and take your chances.  Hell, my daughter got two tickets within 3 days time a couple years ago.  She was speeding, she paid the fine. 




We as a community have that protection, and at a reasonable cost to the community

It is a reasonable cost to you because the fine officers of the Felton PD collect a lot from the motorist on Route 13.  I have stated before that I agree that these men are "just doing their job".  Who is instructing them?  The Chief?  The Town Manager?  Do they have a quota so that your taxes don't go up to support them?  "Curious" people want to know.

 

As I mentioned above; then go and ask.  There is no secret government entity pulling the strings.



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rescue48 wrote: And if they happen to stop someone going over 90mph in the 45 on U.S. 13 then good for them.  That keeps the highway a little bit safer.  It's not a speed trap if you're speeding for crying out loud.

I don't believe that most of their "stops" are for motorists going 90 mph.  I agree that a motorist that is that careless should receive a ticket.  However, that is not the case here.  I think a lot of people are "curious" about the amount of tickets, the average fine per ticket, and the average speed per ticket.  Also, please refer to the wikipedia definition of speed trap:

"Cities or road sections become known as speed traps where police have a reputation for writing an unusually high number of traffic tickets, especially speeding tickets. Sometimes the posted speed limits are not easily seen; in other places, the limits are set such that many vehicles are caught. In many of these uses, the term speed trap connotes speed limit enforcement for purposes of ticket revenue or traffic deterrence instead of safety."

So, see it is a speed trap.  I have posted this definition before.  It definitely applies.

We as a community have that protection, and at a reasonable cost to the community
It is a reasonable cost to you because the fine officers of the Felton PD collect a lot from the motorist on Route 13.  I have stated before that I agree that these men are "just doing their job".  Who is instructing them?  The Chief?  The Town Manager?  Do they have a quota so that your taxes don't go up to support them?  "Curious" people want to know.



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I have interacted with the officers on numerous occasions.  They are all fine, upstanding men.  Quick with a smile and a friendly greeting.  Over two years ago I had need of them one night.  My wife and I were returning from a weekend day trip in the PA antique country.  We were approaching the bay bridge in Annapolis while my wife was talking with our teenage daughter who was at home.  She said she heard a noise upstairs like someone was walking around.  She had just returned home from her job and hadn't been upstairs yet.  My wife told her to call 911 and get in her car and drive around the corner.  The two officers who were on duty that evening were there and in the house making a sweep in under 5 minutes.  As it turned out it was nothing; the usual sounds attributed to a house.  But I sure was glad to have that comforting feeling knowing that our community was protected.  Dare I say that we would've made it home from the bay bridge before DSP would have arrived.  Those are fine officers as well, but they are simply overwhelmed with the workload they have.  It's nice to have community protection.  We as a community have that protection, and at a reasonable cost to the community.  Did you know that when a town resident goes on a vacation you can have the PD make a nightly security check of your property for you?  You can't get that from DSP.  All in all, we as a community have made a fine investment.  And if they happen to stop someone going over 90mph in the 45 on U.S. 13 then good for them.  That keeps the highway a little bit safer.  It's not a speed trap if you're speeding for crying out loud.

Now, there is a second issue here as well.  Of course I support property owner's rights 100%.  To me, this isn't an issue.  We can put a sign up on our front lawn if we so choose.  Go for it. 



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magna wrote: I  blew by the cop sitting there once so fast (i won't say how fast) that the cop just sat there and did nothing.
Thay are not particularly bright -- probably thought he had the radar aimed too high and picked up an aircraft.    Or maybe too busy working on his donuts.



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coophealy wrote: JoJo wrote: I applaud your willingness to exercise your right to free speech.

However, I find your incessant attacks on the FPD to be disgusting.  As far as I can tell, these are good men, earning an honest living. 

The longer you let this drag on, the more apparent it is that this is more a case of sour grapes than anything else. 

Move on...life is too short to spend so much energy on hate.


Where have I personally attacked a Felton PD officer?  I am just against the person or persons that have instructed these police officers to operate their radar the way they do.  Kurt and I are not against a police officer in particular and we are not against any of them personally.  This protest is basically about not wanting the Town of Felton to use its resources to gouge the motorists of Route 13.  Kurt and I found out the hard way, that we can’t afford the ticket.  We’re just trying to warn motorists, what’s wrong with that?  The only sour grapes that I have are toward the person or persons that trespassed onto my property and committed a crime.  We have never taken our protest as far as to break the law.  Someone else decided to do that.  That is one of the reasons, for me anyway, that the sign is going to remain up longer than the original 111 days. 

Oh, and by the way, I don't "hate" anyone.  Hate is a very strong word and I would never use it.  I may "dislike" someone, but I don't "hate" anyone.  And as always, thank your for your opinion.

I  blew by the cop sitting there once so fast (i won't say how fast) that the cop just sat there and did nothing.



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JoJo wrote: I applaud your willingness to exercise your right to free speech.

However, I find your incessant attacks on the FPD to be disgusting.  As far as I can tell, these are good men, earning an honest living. 

The longer you let this drag on, the more apparent it is that this is more a case of sour grapes than anything else. 

Move on...life is too short to spend so much energy on hate.


Where have I personally attacked a Felton PD officer?  I am just against the person or persons that have instructed these police officers to operate their radar the way they do.  Kurt and I are not against a police officer in particular and we are not against any of them personally.  This protest is basically about not wanting the Town of Felton to use its resources to gouge the motorists of Route 13.  Kurt and I found out the hard way, that we can’t afford the ticket.  We’re just trying to warn motorists, what’s wrong with that?  The only sour grapes that I have are toward the person or persons that trespassed onto my property and committed a crime.  We have never taken our protest as far as to break the law.  Someone else decided to do that.  That is one of the reasons, for me anyway, that the sign is going to remain up longer than the original 111 days. 

Oh, and by the way, I don't "hate" anyone.  Hate is a very strong word and I would never use it.  I may "dislike" someone, but I don't "hate" anyone.  And as always, thank your for your opinion.



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JoJo wrote:   As far as I can tell, these are good men, earning an honest living. 

 

do you know any of them by name? do most residents of felton know them by name? how many felton residents have been engaged in conversation with one of those officers, when it wasn't case-related? how many of those officers WALK through the town of felton, getting to know the residents personally and listen to their concerns? how many of them are willing to spend their own time with at-risk youth in felton to help give them direction?

small town cops are bandits who care nothing about the towns they patrol. their job is to bring in money. the more money they bring in, the more "crime" they say they've thwarted(even though speeding or other traffic infractions don't really constitute crime), so they hire more officers, so they bring in more money, so they can stop "crime", so they hire more officers, and bring in more money...

you get the drift.



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I applaud your willingness to exercise your right to free speech.

However, I find your incessant attacks on the FPD to be disgusting.  As far as I can tell, these are good men, earning an honest living. 

The longer you let this drag on, the more apparent it is that this is more a case of sour grapes than anything else. 

Move on...life is too short to spend so much energy on hate.



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Radford.Highlander wrote:You can not argue that a State Police road officer is better trained and educated in law enforcement than municipal officers. I believe the term discretion is what may be different between the two. State Police road patrol officers discretion may be completely different than a municipal agency road patrol officer's discretion. I hope you will understand this and not take offense to the education I offered on this matter. Take care and God Bless
First, I take no offense to someone correcting me when I am wrong.  I will also admit when I am wrong.  However, I did say that "I believe that the State Police officer is better trained and educated in law enforcement."  I still believe what I said, but your statement is also correct.  I have verified that it is true that they go through the same academy training.  However, I believe that the requirements to become a State Police officer are quite different and more stringent than that of a municipal agency police officer.  A State Police officer is required to have 60 credit hours in an accredited college institution before he can even be considered for the position.  Is that true for the town cop?  I don't know, but I don't think so.  Here are the education requirements, from their website for a State Police officer:

Education- Applicant must have a high school diploma or GED, and have attained a minimum of 60 semester credits, or 90 quarter credits, from an accredited college or university. OR, must have 30 college credits along with either two years of active duty military service, OR two years as a full time, Delaware-certified police officer. (60 college credits are required to compete for the rank of Sergeant, and a Bachelor's Degree is required to compete for the ranks of Lieutenant and above).

As for training, you are correct when each officer starts their job, but how about after years on the State Police force and one that has years as a town cop?  I believe that a State Police officer will experience and receive better "on the job" training especially throughout his /her years on the job.

I would still prefer a State Police officer to investigate a crime.  I also prefer a State Police officer to investigate an accident or make my traffic stop.  I also agree with your statement, I believe the term discretion is what may be different between the two. State Police road patrol officers discretion may be completely different than a municipal agency road patrol officer's discretion. Thanks for your reply.  I do appreciate it.



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coophealy wrote: I wholeheartedly disagree with everything in your post and I take offense for the State Police.  I, personally, am glad that I do not live in the Felton boundaries.  I would much rather have the State Police come to my aid then the Felton PD.  I believe that the State Police officer is better trained and educated in law enforcement.


Mrs. Healy, I am a fan of the sign and supporter of yours. But you are completely wrong in your above statement. All local and municipal police agencies are put through the same academy as our fine Delaware State Police officers. The standards are the same, the classes are taught by the same State Police officers, the length is the same, the training is same, and at times (depending on class size and funding) the State Police recruits are mixed in with the municipal agencies recruits. You can not argue that a State Police road officer is better trained and educated in law enforcement than municipal officers. I believe the term discretion is what may be different between the two. State Police road patrol officers discretion may be completely different than a municipal agency road patrol officer's discretion. I hope you will understand this and not take offense to the education I offered on this matter. Take care and God Bless

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FeltonMan wrote: As a 20 year resident of Felton, I am growing a little tired of all of the complaints of the police department. Before we had the full time police department, there was vandalizing and several terrible crashes at the intersection of 13 and 12. If you needed a police officer, it was 2 hours before a State Trooper could get there. I also was a County EMS employee for 13 years and member of the Felton Fire Company.

Since we have put the full time police department on, you can get an officer to an emergency in minutes. It's only about 8 blocks wide for the whole town. There has been very few crashes at the intersection due to the police enforcement of the speed limit. And the vandalism has diminished tremendously.

If you have an issue with the cost of the ticket, don't blame the police department, blame the court system as they set the fines. If you have a problem with the speed limit, slow down. You cannot blame the police department for the law enforcement that they are hired to do. As far as the sign, Oh Well. You can't blame the police department for your traffic violation. I have had my tickets and I was wrong in those accounts and paid my fines.

What accidents are you referring to?  I have lived at my address for more than 20 years and the only accident that I can recall at the intersection is when the bus took out the phone booth at the Felton gas station and speed was not a factor.  Actually, the gas station is not in the Felton boundaries, so the Felton PD should not have responded.  So, actually I don't recall any accidents at the intersection.  Please check your statistics and get back to us.

I wholeheartedly disagree with everything in your post and I take offense for the State Police.  I, personally, am glad that I do not live in the Felton boundaries.  I would much rather have the State Police come to my aid then the Felton PD.  I believe that the State Police officer is better trained and educated in law enforcement.  When did they take 2 hours to respond to you?  I think that in trying to make a point, you are fibbing a little…actually a lot.  It would never take a State Police officer 2 hours to respond to a “terrible crash”.  Of course, it wouldn’t have taken a Felton PD long to get to the crash because before the sign went up, they sat on Route 13 daily.

If you look at the forum, you will also see that I and others disagree with how the Felton PD set up their "speed trap".  They sit in turn lanes and crossovers.  My father taught radar when he was a State Policeman and he states that this is against the law.  They are impeding traffic.  They also sit on the roadway, in the dark, with no lights on.....also against the law!!!!  They have also sat at places that are not within their boundaries.  Last night, there was an officer sitting in the driveway of a residence and that residence was not in the Felton boundaries. 

You will also note that forum members have a problem with the Felton PD being funded by the drivers on Route 13.  The Felton boundaries only cover Route 13 on the north side of the Felton intersection.  Kurt researched the payments to the Town of Felton from the State of Delaware and within the last fiscal year, the town collected almost $300,000.  He also researched the crimes that the Felton PD responded to in one year, one rape and twelve thefts.  If you, as a town of Felton resident, think that these statistics support having a 5 person police department, then you, as a resident, should pay for it in your town taxes.  Why don't you take a poll and see if the other 700+ town residents agree with raising their taxes to support the police department?

Oh, and by the way, we did pay the ticket and instead of paying for another, we are paying for the sign to stay up!!! You are outnumbered, my friend.  The Town of Felton is just mad because Kurt’s sign is working and their funding has diminished. 



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As a 20 year resident of Felton, I am growing a little tired of all of the complaints of the police department. Before we had the full time police department, there was vandalizing and several terrible crashes at the intersection of 13 and 12. If you needed a police officer, it was 2 hours before a State Trooper could get there. I also was a County EMS employee for 13 years and member of the Felton Fire Company.

Since we have put the full time police department on, you can get an officer to an emergency in minutes. It's only about 8 blocks wide for the whole town. There has been very few crashes at the intersection due to the police enforcement of the speed limit. And the vandalism has diminished tremendously.

If you have an issue with the cost of the ticket, don't blame the police department, blame the court system as they set the fines. If you have a problem with the speed limit, slow down. You cannot blame the police department for the law enforcement that they are hired to do. As far as the sign, Oh Well. You can't blame the police department for your traffic violation. I have had my tickets and I was wrong in those accounts and paid my fines.



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Hi All!

Missed the newscast but went to wboc.com the day after and watched it!  Loved it :P

Let's not get sucked into arguing with each other and stay on topic. 

Is it true that a neighbor on the northbound side of the highway, south of the light has or is considering posting a warning sign in the opposite direction? 

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Bluesman wrote: fllbb wrote: No offense Blues, but it seems you were the one making assumptions as per your previous post about marihog. I did have some e-mail conversations with Lisa and she indicated you were a good person so I'll take her word on that. But instead of putting a post after MH trying to somewhat justify what you said previously without anything but an assumption was wrong. Just because you met and spoke to the Healy's doesn't make your previous accusation just go away. Instead of justification, perhaps an apology would have been in order.




A post made 12 days ago that I believed marihog was part of the list of aliases. In that time "marihog" was no longer posting Lisa thought marihog had deleted herself, as did I and a few others.  I had been deleted, and the forum was down for almost 5 days. Lisa told me who marihog was and she wasn't posting when I returned. Now I should have brought up old news instead of staying on topic, there's no winning with some of you.

I'm not the person who made 5 posts today and who sent a nasty profanity filled PM that I received this morning.  As far as me apologizing I think there are a number of forum members who owe other members apologies including you. 


 


One thing you'll find here some think they know everything and are never wrong, even when they are wrong. But they'll never admit it. They will die to have the last word even if its on another site/blog because this site was closed.

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Drama, Drama, Drama... and so it continues

One person's "good person" could be the next person's worst nightmare.

NOW ABOUT THAT SIGN!!!!!!............

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fllbb wrote: No offense Blues, but it seems you were the one making assumptions as per your previous post about marihog. I did have some e-mail conversations with Lisa and she indicated you were a good person so I'll take her word on that. But instead of putting a post after MH trying to somewhat justify what you said previously without anything but an assumption was wrong. Just because you met and spoke to the Healy's doesn't make your previous accusation just go away. Instead of justification, perhaps an apology would have been in order.




A post made 12 days ago that I believed marihog was part of the list of aliases. In that time "marihog" was no longer posting Lisa thought marihog had deleted herself, as did I and a few others.  I had been deleted, and the forum was down for almost 5 days. Lisa told me who marihog was and she wasn't posting when I returned. Now I should have brought up old news instead of staying on topic, there's no winning with some of you.

I'm not the person who made 5 posts today and who sent a nasty profanity filled PM that I received this morning.  As far as me apologizing I think there are a number of forum members who owe other members apologies including you. 


 

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Bluesman wrote: stinky wrote: there is one post on this page by a guest, sweet willie, and his unedited post is pertinent to the conversation and not directed at you. i'm just suggesting you keep it in the child support thread or your special troll thread, no need to pepper threads with requests for bully back up when these threads have nothing to do with your issue.
I said look through the whole topic. The "guests" are all one in the same person, including DING DONG, Sweet Wille,  Felton, and marihog.


No offense Blues, but it seems you were the one making assumptions as per your previous post about marihog. I did have some e-mail conversations with Lisa and she indicated you were a good person so I'll take her word on that. But instead of putting a post after MH trying to somewhat justify what you said previously without anything but an assumption was wrong. Just because you met and spoke to the Healy's doesn't make your previous accusation just go away. Instead of justification, perhaps an apology would have been in order.

Now back to the sign....

KEEP IT UP !



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I have met the Kurt and Lisa and their children. I took it upon myself to stop in and say hi after Lisa, Kurt and I had spoke a number of times, on the phone. Why don't you give her a call, before you make assumptions about me.

Lisa told me you were a nice person...I believe her. 




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marihog@aol.com wrote: has anyone else noticed that bluesman has just joined in january of this year, with 79 comments????????  hum........  he has been on here for years.  thanks blues, for trying to discredit my name.......;) as those who know me, will know, that i didn't mean any harm.
oopps, my bad, 76....................  but  2 weeks ago, there were over 4000 posts...........  lisa, just watch you back///////////  and think before you befriend someone will you????????  im only trying tooo look out for your safety............



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has anyone else noticed that bluesman has just joined in january of this year, with 79 comments????????  hum........  he has been on here for years.  thanks blues, for trying to discredit my name.......;) as those who know me, will know, that i didn't mean any harm.



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Nature Lover wrote: I saw you guys on the news!! I say leave the sign up. :Di wish id seen them, but i was out of town,,,,,  for the superbowl.........  GO STEELERS, AS THEY WENT.......... IN PITTSBURGH WE WERE........  ME AND SG!!!!!!!  LISA, you need to let me see a copy of it will you?  hopefully you recorded it........



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hey lisa, i did get your private message, but i couldn't remember my password.........................  hummmmmmmmmmm  i think since someone deleted my comment, they kinda blocked me, but i resigned up, and it said there were no messages..........  sorry........  but anyhow, harvey c, or all of you other people out there who are accusing me,,,,,,,,  of being those other people, sorry, but i use my name, cause i really can't even remember all my passwords, to all my accounts, meaning work and all, let alone new names...........  lisa, you have my number, if you want to call bg gave it to you, please feel free......  and yes,,,,  the HEALYS know me personally , and have for about what 5 years??????  so to the person who deleted my comment, even before they could read it.......  read this...........  im not against lisa and kurt, so quit deleting people on here, before you know the whole truth about people, huh????????????????



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I finally made the trip to Felton on Sunday at 1:30 PM.    The sign was beautiful -- and not a cop in sight.    Hopefully, the Healys have impacted their operation.    Keep that sign for as long as felton keeps the cops they don't need and can't afford, sans the omnipresent speed trap.



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I saw you guys on the news!! I say leave the sign up. :D



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coophealy wrote: Hello everyone.  Thanks to all for the support Kurt and I have received.  WBOC is going to do a follow up story tomorrow on the sign.  The question that the reporter asked Kurt on the phone was how many days are we going to leave it up.  What do you guys think?  Kurt's original thought was 111 days which will leave it up until March.  It is definitely going to stay up that long.  Should we ever take it down?  We have had people call and stop by to tell us that the sign has saved them from a ticket.  I know that we will probably never know how many "out of state" people we are helping, but if we have saved at least one person from getting a ticket, then the sign has worked.  I hope everyone has a great weekend and drive safely.
I've never personally seen the sign, but my brother tells me saw your sign then the cop.  You saved him...Leave it up!

 



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Hello everyone.  Thanks to all for the support Kurt and I have received.  WBOC is going to do a follow up story tomorrow on the sign.  The question that the reporter asked Kurt on the phone was how many days are we going to leave it up.  What do you guys think?  Kurt's original thought was 111 days which will leave it up until March.  It is definitely going to stay up that long.  Should we ever take it down?  We have had people call and stop by to tell us that the sign has saved them from a ticket.  I know that we will probably never know how many "out of state" people we are helping, but if we have saved at least one person from getting a ticket, then the sign has worked.  I hope everyone has a great weekend and drive safely.



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Well I would not have waited until I received a ticket for expired tags. I would have had the sign up from the start.



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Every once in a while the little guys win.....congratulations!



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Congratulations Healys!  I saw your article on the cover of the Delaware State News today.



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I had the pleasure of meeting the Healy family on Saturday, and they are as genuine in real life as in these forums. They are good salt of the earth people folk like most of us. Kurt was  trying to express a viewpoint about something that was and is unjust.



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As I said in my previous post, If there were a legal confrontation I believed that the Healy's civil rights were being violated.

As you pass by the sign make sure to "Honk for the Healy's!"

Way to hang in there Kurt and Lisa!

 

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Hooray for the Healy's and their tanacity concerning the speed trap sign.    I have no doubt the felton make-believes do not care for its presence, but they will have to cry and whine elsewhere.    I do not expect that all drivers will heed the warning, thus avoiding the fines payable to the town, but I sincerely hope that it does impact the town severely.



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